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Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: August 20, 2018, 02:09:00 PM »
Good call, will keep that in mind and look to grab one.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: August 20, 2018, 07:48:50 AM »
I have an update to this thread.  I was finally able to get away for a weekend of climbing 13ers in the Marble/Crested Butte area and drove the Monty hard the whole time.  I did the Lead King Basin loop outside of Marble and drove about 7 miles up Pearl Pass from the Crested Butte side.  Both roads required being in 4Lo for over two hours, slow climbing, and pushing the vehicle over legit obstacles.  In all honesty, Pearl Pass was the roughest road I have ever driven.

The vehicle did great!  All worries about the head gasket are gone, I never once dealt with rising temps on this trip.  I cannot pin-point the exact issue of what was causing my heating issues, but I assume it was a combination of everything in Shovel's post and everything that I replaced/repaired.  In all honesty, the fact that my temps were holding as well as they were with the state my cooling system was in, speaks volumes to how well these trucks were engineered. 

I also need to clarify that I mistakenly spoke about overheating.  I read the owners manual where it describes overheating as getting above the last tick mark on the temp gauge.  I never let my temps get above the 3/4 mark on the temp gauge and therefore never actually overheated.  A better way to describe it would be getting warm.  So, thankfully I was smart enough to know when to stop pushing and not cause catastrophic damage.

Thanks for the responses, Shovel I think your post needs to be stickied because it was very useful.   

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 31, 2018, 11:05:42 AM »
Do you have information on the group buy? Website link?

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 30, 2018, 08:46:18 AM »
Got all my parts on Friday and finished up the flush over the weekend.  I did end up getting my radiator from Advance.  It's a plastic/aluminum design that's made by Spectra.  I understand this rad is crap but I am willing to make that sacrifice until I can get an OEM from a parts truck.  One will pop up soon and this will get me by in the meantime.  Anyway, parts removed and replaced:

Radiator cap
Engine aux fan
Upper/lower cooling hoses
Hose clips
Starter rebuilt

All parts pulled off except thermostat were original Denso from the factory.

Rig was down for 8 days, so I took the time to do some corrosion control.  I've never done this on a car but used to perform this maintenance on our helicopters when I was in the Marines.  My paint color choice is questionable at best... But it turned out good and looks better than before.  I also snagged the windshield trim from that truck at the yard last Saturday, painted it, and ordered some new clips off eBay.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:22:42 PM »
Well, I just received a call that my order has been canceled because CSF no longer makes the model for our truck.  I may need to settle for an aluminum radiator to get my unit back on the road.  Not really sure what other options I have.  The radiator shop market in Denver is dwindling, so custom is not going to happen here. 

I can get a lifetime one from Advance with 20% off to get on the road and maybe eventually source one from a parts truck that pops up CL here down the road.  Or keep trying to get mine fixed.  But at this point I need to get back on the road, the S2K is a track car, hate driving it around town.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 25, 2018, 07:40:34 AM »
Sounds like a great business opportunity to partner up with them!  I know the Land Cruiser community has a guy that makes specialty radiators for them.  Too bad I ordered the CSF last night, otherwise I would have tried the Performance and written a review.  Sounds like you've had good experiences with them. 

Our options are extremely limited for radiators.  Either cheap Rock Auto or local parts store units (Chinese/Taiwanese), OEM (~$700), salvage yard (good luck finding a clean example local to you), or CSF and to a lesser degree sounds like Performance could be a viable option. 

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 24, 2018, 08:51:22 PM »

They're local to us. I'll try to drop in and check one out in person.

Please let me know what you think. These can be had on Auto Parts Warehouse for $230. It was down to this or the CSF, and ultimately I went with CSF because I cannot find any info on these Performance ones. No reviews, no forum threads, hardly any company info. Also the description doesn't specify if it's all metal, just the core materials which are better than most aluminium options out there.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 24, 2018, 05:24:43 PM »
Shovel - This is one I am torn over.  It is my fit, and seems like it is all metal with copper/brass internals.  I can get one shipped for around $200 and thinking of going this route but on the Jeep/Toyota forums the general consensus is the build quality is not up to par and it will develop cracks under pressure.  I have literally been researching every single option out there and don't have an answer.  There is a company out of AZ called Performance Radiator, their's looks like it could be a good choice too.

**Edit - Just ordered CSF 3050 from CarID for $211.  Hopefully I get a good one.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 24, 2018, 02:06:42 PM »
Hey Aaron, thanks for the reply! 

As I mentioned in my previous post, my radiator developed those two pinhole leaks and I am having the hardest time trying to source an OEM type radiator.  I brought my unit to a couple of shops around town and they both basically said don't even bother, get a new one.  All I can find are cheap build, single core with plastic end cap examples.  Do you know of any options for a replacement? 

Or does anyone on the forum know of a replacement radiator option?  I went to a local junk yard to look at a '95, and it looked in worse condition than mine.

At this point there isn't a rush.  My starter is getting rebuilt because that took a shit on me too so I am driving the S2K until I can get this all sorted out.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Vibrating side mirror repair
« on: July 19, 2018, 08:24:03 AM »
Need to do this to my drivers side, I've just gotten used to it over the years.  Funny this is a common issue!

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 19, 2018, 08:19:06 AM »
Another update! I have had to cancel my trip to Aspen due to further issues with my cooling system. After replacing the rad cap and thermo, I developed a leaking radiator from two little pin holes at the top. Radiator shop said he can rebuild it next week and that I could drive it, but I am too concerned about the added pressures from being on a 4x4 road. As much as I would love to be stranded in the pristine Colorado basins I would like it more if I had a way out!

I also learned that my condenser fan does not operate, another check shovel mentioned. So I have that on order and should receive by next week. I think at this point I'll practically have a new cooling system in place and can't wait to put it to the test. Again, really happy this forum is here to help me troubleshoot and happy I can do the work myself! Who knows what this would cost taking to a shop.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 16, 2018, 10:42:08 AM »
Update to thread. Turns out, one of the previous owners did have a cheapo 9.99 aftermarket thermo installed at some point. Good for daily driving but not sufficient for off-road. I was able to source an OEM one this morning locally, along with a new cap. Got these installed and dropping it off for the rad rod after lunch. Hoping these are my issues and will find out in Aspen this weekend.

This has been a great overall thread. I appreciate all the help and hope it can help others moving forward.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 15, 2018, 08:32:49 PM »
Shovel - I know you aren't being a jerk, I've been around car forums enough to not get my feelings hurt. I've been a Honda guy my whole life, and this is my first time owning a 4x4 such as this, so these types of special situations are new to me. And let's me honest, this engine is a bit more complicated.

I don't believe it's the tires, most discussions I've read have said I can get away with a true 33 before having issues. I'm going to start on your list with the radiator service, cap, and thermostat. I think this is the best place to start. Like I said, I ONLY overheat under load when off-road. I drive the crap out of this car (it's my daily) and I don't think I've damaged the head gaskets because I do not have symptoms of it. I pulled my cap earlier and sure as shit it's original, Japanese writing and all. The seal is worn and cracked. Replacing first thing tomorrow. I hope the Mitsu dealer by me has a thermo in stock so I can get that knocked out then the rad service. I looked inside and it's got crusty build up all over.  But my fluid is crystal green and looks brand new.

Thanks for the write up, you've been very helpful. I'm going to start with these three and hopefully get it done before the weekend because I'm supposed to go to Aspen and then I can see if the issue has been fixed.

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 15, 2018, 05:22:01 PM »
Thanks Toasty, will do.

Shovel - I drained and filled coolant when purchased. But I will take your advice on the thermo and cap, get those on order tomorrow. I'll also get on the horn with some radiator shops to get mine rodded as well, I have never heard of this procedure, that's new to me.

Rest assured, this truck has not been neglected. I drained and filled all fluids upon purchase and at 210K will be performing essentially my 30K since it was baselined when purchased. I use all OEM fluids. Thanks for the help, will provide updates shortly!

Mitsubishi Related / Re: Off-road Overheating Issues
« on: July 15, 2018, 12:06:59 PM »
It is the original radiator and I have never had it rodded out in my two years of ownership. Tires are 265/75 16, gears are the OEM for winter edition, I believe 4.10s. As far as I am aware, all parts in the cooling system are original.

Toasty - What do you think next steps would be in this case? I have driven it all day and have had no issues.

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