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DR1665

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Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« on: June 19, 2017, 08:48:18 AM »
Saw an interesting conversation on Facebook. Got me wondering...

I was planning on picking up the SP3 trans fluid at the dealer, but if the Eunos SP3 is the same thing and cheaper, I'm interested. I know it's good stuff.

The question is what's the official answer on which trucks do or don't require SP3? It's based on build date, I guess. Figure this would be good info for our search to find.

Plus, I don't have a copy of the FSM on my phone these days.
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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 09:37:07 AM »
Sp3 always and for every montero. Sp3 at the dealer is about $1 or $2 more a quart, I can't remember the price on the Eunos. It won't hurt a gen 1 or gen 2 and is actually required in everything from 97 - 06. Piece of mind goes alot further for me. I also noticed a great difference when I took my truck to the dealer and had them do a full service with sp3.

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 04:50:39 PM »
 Eneos cost more on our side of town, have Josh bring you some to the shop.

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 05:42:05 PM »
If Amsoil has an equivalent, i can hook you guys up as well.  Full disclosure, i'd make at least a dollar off each quart.  :P

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 09:36:39 PM »
Eunos here is $11 per quart. Mitsu branded is $20 per. I bet my evo trans that it's the same stuff. Gen3 and pajevo are each running 6L of it at the moment...

Drew84

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 09:49:12 AM »
Check ebay for sellers with 1/2 cases or cases of OEM SPIII. A Hyundai dealer should also have it in a pinch.
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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2017, 05:21:06 AM »
Eneos is the same stuff as SP-III. Trouble is, the SP-III can be had locally for $6 per quart at the local Mitsubishi dealer with no shipping and NAPA wants a lot more for the Eneos and they have to order it. I'd have no problem ordering either online as long as I had a reasonable expectation that I was getting what I paid for, it would show up before I needed it and the landed cost was right.

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2017, 08:17:01 AM »
I was just at napa yesterday. Eneos was $6.69 a quart. I pay $6.00 a quart at the dealer for Diamond SPlll.

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2017, 07:19:13 AM »
Has anyone here had experience with Amsoil synthetic ATF? I will be running Amsoil on the diffs and tcase and after talking to some guys this weekend at my friends shop they are huge fans of Amsoil products they use on their ATV's and their Mudding trucks.

I was pretty much set on going OEM SPIII (Mitsu or Hyundai) to fill my trans but then this weekend having conversations with those guys and doing a bit more research...it seems the general census agrees that Amsoil ATF for SPIII use is a win. I even came across this from researching where this guy did testing with Kia SPIII to Amsoil ATF and posted the breakdown of the test results using both on the same vehicle with the same milage.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1488922

I signed up to be a Amsoil Preferred customer and I can get the Amsoil atf pretty much cheaper than OEM SPIII retail price.
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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 06:20:43 PM »
I'm going to believe what everyone says about ATF fluid but why does the FSM say dexron ii ? whats the issue with that?

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2017, 07:05:43 PM »
That's what throws alot of people off. Early on, it was a big issue with several people using different service centers or lube shops to get transmissions serviced and not much long after, trans failure. Most shops these days have learned, especially with the growth of import vehicles here in the states.

Hopefully before people do any services they find this forum or others to gain knowledge before they let just a random shop mess with there pride and joy.

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2017, 08:48:52 PM »
 I remember someone on 4x4wire ran the Mobile 1 full synthetic ATF and the Montero scorched that fluid, they did a before and after oil pan photos as well.

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2017, 04:44:00 PM »
Has anyone here had experience with Amsoil synthetic ATF? I will be running Amsoil on the diffs and tcase and after talking to some guys this weekend at my friends shop they are huge fans of Amsoil products they use on their ATV's and their Mudding trucks.

I was pretty much set on going OEM SPIII (Mitsu or Hyundai) to fill my trans but then this weekend having conversations with those guys and doing a bit more research...it seems the general census agrees that Amsoil ATF for SPIII use is a win. I even came across this from researching where this guy did testing with Kia SPIII to Amsoil ATF and posted the breakdown of the test results using both on the same vehicle with the same milage.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1488922

I signed up to be a Amsoil Preferred customer and I can get the Amsoil atf pretty much cheaper than OEM SPIII retail price.

I've found most guys selling Amsoil are just regular folks who got caught up in a sales pitch like someone selling Mary Kay cosmetics.

OEM SPIII simply JUST works. There really is no reason to chance anything else.  The reason the FSM says Dexron is SPIII as I understand it is a derivative of Dexron, Mitsubishi kept superseding fluids and eventually landed on SPIII.
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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2017, 06:57:30 PM »
Toasty, I remember that post a long time ago about the Mobil 1 ATF on 4x4Wire. Point is, just don't use that one.

I'll second the above feelings on Amsoil, but I will add, it's YOUR transmission. I won't ever buy it from you. Use what you want. I rarely buy any dealer parts, ever, but I bought four cases of Mitsubishi SP-III for a reason. I'm not chancing my very expensive transmission with anything else (plus, AGAIN, it costs less than Eneos here). At six bucks a quart, I can spill some on the ground and still overuse 11 quarts of it to flush out my entire transmission system and spend a grand total of $85, with tax. Why fight it?

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Re: Gen 2.5 trans fluid: SPIII or not?
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2017, 07:39:54 AM »
I membah that, pics of the sludgy Mobil 1 pan.