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1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« on: July 15, 2017, 10:40:55 PM »
I test fit my new-to-me Helo rims with 315/75-16 tires on the left side of Pearl this evening, snapped some pics, and really wished the truck wheel openings were as large as the Montero. Shucks!

I have not been a proponent of body lifts through the years, nor wheel spacers, but I'm going to add some height to the cab. Chatting with Joshua on FB, the ADD pieces net about 1.75" of lift? I am taking a stab in thinking that may not be enough alone. I will likely trim fender clearancing, as needed; however, I'm interested in collecting opinions. Prior to purchase of a BL kit, I have Lloyd's old torsion bars and some SR UCAs to install.

Thoughts? Try the ADD lift? Go right to a 4x Crawler 3" BL? Not much tech regarding the Max upgrades when most guys quit at 33" treads.

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Stock ride height, suspension is loaded though jacked up to support truck


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« Last Edit: July 16, 2017, 01:28:33 PM by RXIN HED »
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 08:33:55 AM »
I put 3" on my Gen 1 max to clear 35's and I'll still need to trim fenders. Mighty max isn't built to be a big tire truck. Sacrifices must be made.

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 01:25:04 PM »
Cool. Saw is at the ready!
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2017, 04:07:58 PM »
 Do it! and run Lloyd's T-bars, coil spring the rear.  :D

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2017, 04:21:35 PM »
How in tarnation did I miss this before? Damn Russ! Now I feel the utter fool asking you about 31s on Mine. LOL.

I hear you on BLs. I went through a similar debate years ago on Betsy3 (my last gen1, the LWB). I ended up going 2 inch. It's not an elegant solution but it does offer some advantages, over and above tire clearance, provided you're willing to work the details (of course you know this all already). Clearance for transmission, clutch, etc is greatly improved. Ability to lift gas tank is nice (not sure if this is the case with the truck?) Just the general roominess added is kinda nice. 

Course you may have to extend brake lines. Gas tank filler. Reposition shroud. Tcase shifter room. Trans linkage if auto. Etc. Etc. But if you're running 35s on a max then these are pretty minor inconveniences right? 

Hold on. You can use montero UCAS? Serious!y? I'm so behind the loop in pickup world. :(

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2017, 05:44:17 PM »
Phil, I've been exploring the dark side for sometime with Pearl...you know all them pirate waters?

I need to confirm which Montero UCSa, do the body lift and trim what remains. As to the 31s on your Strada, I would not mess with that ride. As we've discussed in other threads and conversations, Pearl is going to be a Swiss Army knife. The addition of the service body will make the fuel fillers (yes, 2) relocated, anyway. I'm adding a rear fuel tank from a 4-cyl SWB Montero that will be slave to the primary tank. I may try to use the larger FI tank from the Sport parts car as the primary. The other things will fall in place as I add the disc brake rear axle and cut down Ramsey winch bumper. Something that looks great in my head is the 'decreased apparent height' of the 5-speed shift lever that is way too long. I have a 21-gallon water tank I'm trying to find room for, too.

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 08:40:37 AM »
I have 94 Montero UCA and LCA on my 84, they bolt straight on.

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 06:49:17 PM »
There is a 97 near me that I will scavenge from, awesome sauce
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2017, 02:34:13 PM »
need the CV's as well. longer.

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2019, 08:08:42 PM »
Finishing what I can scavenge from the 2002 Sport parts car before I rehome it.

What else can I use on Pearl?

1. Grabbed UCAs just now. CVs, too?
2. Steering parts like box, tie rods, idler?
3. Fuel tank? Has 3 gallons more capacity, and a built in FI fuel pump....bonus over noisy, no longer functioning external pump on truck now.
4. What else?
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2019, 08:46:26 PM »
What's the gearing of the '02 MS?

Does it have the CAD free front diff? You're already running manual locking hubs...

I've heard it mentioned the seats may fit, or be 'close' to fitting.
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2019, 08:29:24 AM »
Seats are not compatible. In disgust, I've left the Sport seats out for two years. The cats like them

Front diff is 4.9, but I'll be using a V6 Montero Gen 1 diff with the Aussie locker from L.T. I've not settled on a gear ratio.
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2019, 02:25:28 PM »
Bummer about the seats. I'll be upgrading mine eventually but its still pretty far down on the list...

I'm fairly certain the Gen 1 V6 front diff is low pinion.

Adding the Aussie locker to the high pinion front diff out of the '02 MS, w/4.9s and no CAD, would be stronger, and based on what I've read, better suited to the V6/35" combo you're running.

*Scratch that, I'd forgotten you're running a turbo'd 4cyl 4G54 out of a Starion*

You're running a '97-'99 MS 9" rear end correct?

Is the '02 MS a 3.0 or 3.5?

If it's a 3.0, the rear high pinion 4.90 diff should swap right in, or if your rear end has an oem air locker, at least the 4.90 r&P will swap over.

Whether you plan on using them or not, the 4.90 diffs, esp the CAD free MS front, seem to be sought after by Gen 2 guys running larger tires and would be worth pulling before scrapping the MS.
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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2019, 06:51:23 PM »


Did just that today. I plan to reuse most of the suspension from the Sport. Until I was undoing the cross-member mount, had presumed the front axle to be CAD....happily, not!

Depending on which tires and rims I do eventually use, I've already traded away the 4.9 rear gear set to LT. So, I'd likely stick with 4.625 for 33" or 5.29 for 35". Also, I have one of the unicorn Detroits for the rear and regret not answering Toasty's add for the front Detroit that Earnest now has. At least Montero Ranch contributed the front differential mount to him.

My truck is Starion-fortified, and goes Pssht! No V6 for me, but turbo 4G54.

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Re: 1988 Mighty Max and 35" Tires
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2019, 09:49:57 PM »
Your better off sticking with the low pinion V6 front diff as its the only 8" front that can run 5.29's high pinion vs low pinion doesn't apply here you'll blow up an axle before you blow up the diff
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